ok let's get back to one of these guru's.....i guess i'll start getting them all in a certain order eventually too.....and then in time i guess i would be sending whoever is on the top of the list some of my hard earned money.......if we go high and figure $500 per quarter just for fees although i know that's high because jason bond is only asking $399 per quarter and jeff williams i only $299 per quarter so let's go high and say even at $400 per quarter thats $1,600 per year just for the service.......and i'd want to stick with one guy for at least a year i would think.........and then let's say you wanted to play around with a $20,000 wad........and i'd go in to the game figuring ok i got to make this $20,000 grow......and i guess in this game you would be a fool not to be aware that the entire $20,000 could very quickly go bye-bye.....so you want to avoid the old adage that a fool and his money soon go there separate ways.....